bill82
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Post by bill82 on Jun 9, 2019 3:45:02 GMT -8
It was a great meet. Lots of records.
I was left with the strong impression that we are way-way-way behind the pack. Maybe in the bottom 10% of all programs.
Some events have 40 qualifiers. They come from every directional school in the country. And we cannot qualify one athlete for one event? Wofford, Rhode Island, Monmouth, Incarnate Word, St. Francis, Iona and the list goes on of small schools that had qualifiers. With over 15 events it is hard to believe we cannot get a "top 40" athlete in any of them.
Our publicity department does a good job of pumping out reports of school records in various event-but the problem is all of these new records don't come close to qualifying for the NCAA.
There were plenty of freshman and sophomore qualifiers. The coach should be on the hot seat next year if noone from OSU qualifies for the 2020 championship.
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 9, 2019 7:22:57 GMT -8
It was a great meet. Lots of records. I was left with the strong impression that we are way-way-way behind the pack. Maybe in the bottom 10% of all programs. Some events have 40 qualifiers. They come from every directional school in the country. And we cannot qualify one athlete for one event? Wofford, Rhode Island, Monmouth, Incarnate Word, St. Francis, Iona and the list goes on of small schools that had qualifiers. With over 15 events it is hard to believe we cannot get a "top 40" athlete in any of them. Our publicity department does a good job of pumping out reports of school records in various event-but the problem is all of these new records don't come close to qualifying for the NCAA. There were plenty of freshman and sophomore qualifiers. The coach should be on the hot seat next year if noone from OSU qualifies for the 2020 championship.
-There are 21 events at the NCAA Outdoor Track and Field Championships (you did say over 15)
-No event has over 40 qualifiers. There are 24 entries for every event...no more or less. A relay will have 24 team entries for a total of 48(whoops***96) total runners. You are mixing up the West and East Regional Meets that make up the entries for the National Championship Meet. Those meets (Regionals) have 40 qualifiers per event that earn a spot according to their performances over the course of the season. Top 12 places in each event at the 2 regionals make up the participants (24 total) for the Championship Meet. An athlete (or relay) must finish in the top 12 at their Regional to advance to the Championship. There are a lot of nuances and unique aspects to a Regional vs any other meet an athlete participates in to cover here. Suffice it to say that the Regional is a challenging Meet unto itself.
OSU had many athletes make the "Top 40" you speak of. It was the meet held in Sacramento 2 weeks ago. To be at Nationals you need to finish Top 12. Think of how difficult that could be and how each event is different with school participation. We just saw 1 school take the Top 3 spots at the NCAA Championship in a single event. OSU has Top 40 athletes in events. OSU just doesn't have a Top 12 Athlete at the 2019 West Regional. Also, only having a Women's Team minimizes any potential exposure OSU could have at a National Meet like the NCAA Championship and helps with the narrative we are way behind.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 9, 2019 10:47:29 GMT -8
We had a competitor. Our high jumper took 10th and was a second-team All-American.
As far as firing the coach, that's stupidity. He took the cross country team to the NCAA finals for the first time in history in just his second year.
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 9, 2019 14:03:58 GMT -8
It was a great meet. Lots of records. I was left with the strong impression that we are way-way-way behind the pack. Maybe in the bottom 10% of all programs. Some events have 40 qualifiers. They come from every directional school in the country. And we cannot qualify one athlete for one event? Wofford, Rhode Island, Monmouth, Incarnate Word, St. Francis, Iona and the list goes on of small schools that had qualifiers. With over 15 events it is hard to believe we cannot get a "top 40" athlete in any of them. Our publicity department does a good job of pumping out reports of school records in various event-but the problem is all of these new records don't come close to qualifying for the NCAA. There were plenty of freshman and sophomore qualifiers. The coach should be on the hot seat next year if noone from OSU qualifies for the 2020 championship.
-There are 21 events at the NCAA Outdoor Track and Field Championships (you did say over 15)
-No event has over 40 qualifiers. There are 24 entries for every event...no more or less. A relay will have 24 team entries for a total of 48 total runners. You are mixing up the West and East Regional Meets that make up the entries for the National Championship Meet. Those meets (Regionals) have 40 qualifiers per event that earn a spot according to their performances over the course of the season. Top 12 places in each event at the 2 regionals make up the participants (24 total) for the Championship Meet. An athlete (or relay) must finish in the top 12 at their Regional to advance to the Championship. There are a lot of nuances and unique aspects to a Regional vs any other meet an athlete participates in to cover here. Suffice it to say that the Regional is a challenging Meet unto itself.
OSU had many athletes make the "Top 40" you speak of. It was the meet held in Sacramento 2 weeks ago. To be at Nationals you need to finish Top 12. Think of how difficult that could be and how each event is different with school participation. We just saw 1 school take the Top 3 spots at the NCAA Championship in a single event. OSU has Top 40 athletes in events. OSU just doesn't have a Top 12 Athlete at the 2019 West Regional. Also, only having a Women's Team minimizes any potential exposure OSU could have at a National Meet like the NCAA Championship and helps with the narrative we are way behind.
Great post, even with the minor math error. |
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 9, 2019 14:04:03 GMT -8
It was a great meet. Lots of records. I was left with the strong impression that we are way-way-way behind the pack. Maybe in the bottom 10% of all programs. Some events have 40 qualifiers. They come from every directional school in the country. And we cannot qualify one athlete for one event? Wofford, Rhode Island, Monmouth, Incarnate Word, St. Francis, Iona and the list goes on of small schools that had qualifiers. With over 15 events it is hard to believe we cannot get a "top 40" athlete in any of them. Our publicity department does a good job of pumping out reports of school records in various event-but the problem is all of these new records don't come close to qualifying for the NCAA. There were plenty of freshman and sophomore qualifiers. The coach should be on the hot seat next year if noone from OSU qualifies for the 2020 championship.
-There are 21 events at the NCAA Outdoor Track and Field Championships (you did say over 15)
-No event has over 40 qualifiers. There are 24 entries for every event...no more or less. A relay will have 24 team entries for a total of 48 total runners. You are mixing up the West and East Regional Meets that make up the entries for the National Championship Meet. Those meets (Regionals) have 40 qualifiers per event that earn a spot according to their performances over the course of the season. Top 12 places in each event at the 2 regionals make up the participants (24 total) for the Championship Meet. An athlete (or relay) must finish in the top 12 at their Regional to advance to the Championship. There are a lot of nuances and unique aspects to a Regional vs any other meet an athlete participates in to cover here. Suffice it to say that the Regional is a challenging Meet unto itself.
OSU had many athletes make the "Top 40" you speak of. It was the meet held in Sacramento 2 weeks ago. To be at Nationals you need to finish Top 12. Think of how difficult that could be and how each event is different with school participation. We just saw 1 school take the Top 3 spots at the NCAA Championship in a single event. OSU has Top 40 athletes in events. OSU just doesn't have a Top 12 Athlete at the 2019 West Regional. Also, only having a Women's Team minimizes any potential exposure OSU could have at a National Meet like the NCAA Championship and helps with the narrative we are way behind.
Great post, even with the minor math error. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 9, 2019 15:19:49 GMT -8
We had a competitor. Our high jumper took 10th and was a second-team All-American. As far as firing the coach, that's stupidity. He took the cross country team to the NCAA finals for the first time in history in just his second year. Wow we had one athlete make nationals, finishing tenth and scoring zero points. I guess you gotta crawl before you can walk. |
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Post by ag87 on Jun 9, 2019 15:40:42 GMT -8
Since reinstating track and field, our women have not scored a point at the national meet. Laura Carlye was HM all-american and now the three from the last three years. I think Jordan Bishop scored in the high jump on the men's side.
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 9, 2019 15:55:10 GMT -8
It will be hard to get any world class runners here with oregon in Eugene. Look at the sisters that came from the coast and then transfered to oregon. The reputation Dumble has should be a draw for throwers, and that could be our way to get some National athletes. Time will tell.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 9, 2019 16:01:20 GMT -8
It will be hard to get any world class runners here with oregon in Eugene. Look at the sisters that came from the coast and then transfered to oregon. The reputation Dumble has should be a draw for throwers, and that could be our way to get some National athletes. Time will tell. Wait... must be an uck. Eugene is in Oregon not vice versa 🤣🍺 |
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 9, 2019 16:50:19 GMT -8
It will be hard to get any world class runners here with oregon in Eugene. Look at the sisters that came from the coast and then transfered to oregon. The reputation Dumble has should be a draw for throwers, and that could be our way to get some National athletes. Time will tell. Wait... must be an uck. Eugene is in Oregon not vice versa 🤣🍺 Well, the fool...or in this case uck... must be you. Many of us Beavers on this board choose not to capitalize anything associated with our little sister school to the South. So things like ducks(or dropping the "d" like you seem to be aware of) uo, or oregon the school does not get a capitalization. Eugene the city, or Oregon (one of 50 in the United States) gets a capital letter. oregon, the school gets no capitalization...intentionally. Now explain to me how I need reading comprehension, or some other lame ass excuse you will use instead of not realizing you made a fool out of yourself while trying to be a smartass. Since you do not either have the intelligence or education(maybe both, not your fault) to comprehend what I wrote, let me try to help you--- "It will be hard to get any world class runners here with oregon(the school with the mascot known as the *uck) in Eugene(City in Oregon). Look at the sisters that came from the coast(North Bend I think...In Oregon) and then transferred to oregon(again, the school with the mascot known as the *uck). The reputation Dumble(Throws Coach at OSU) has should be a draw for throwers, and that could be our way to get some National athletes. Time will tell." Hope that helps. Instead of TRYING to be funny, pull your head out of your ass you are wearing for a hat to shade the sun in Summerlin(the city) and have another cocktail.  |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 9, 2019 17:09:41 GMT -8
Wait... must be an uck. Eugene is in Oregon not vice versa 🤣🍺 Well, the fool...or in this case uck... must be you. Many of us Beavers on this board choose not to capitalize anything associated with our little sister school to the South. So things like ducks(or dropping the "d" like you seem to be aware of) uo, or oregon the school does not get a capitalization. Eugene the city, or Oregon (one of 50 in the United States) gets a capital letter. oregon, the school gets no capitalization...intentionally. Now explain to me how I need reading comprehension, or some other lame ass excuse you will use instead of not realizing you made a fool out of yourself while trying to be a smartass. Since you do not either have the intelligence or education(maybe both, not your fault) to comprehend what I wrote, let me try to help you--- "It will be hard to get any world class runners here with oregon(the school with the mascot known as the *uck) in Eugene(City in Oregon). Look at the sisters that came from the coast(North Bend I think...In Oregon) and then transferred to oregon(again, the school with the mascot known as the *uck). The reputation Dumble(Throws Coach at OSU) has should be a draw for throwers, and that could be our way to get some National athletes. Time will tell." Hope that helps. Instead of TRYING to be funny, pull your head out of your ass you are wearing for a hat to shade the sun in Summerlin(the city) and have another cocktail. Eugene the city and Oregon the state as written deserve caps. Idiots like you that are over the top anti/jealous and dwell on everything uck are quite the scene on here. So again... even after drinking, in any "Town" I still have a sense of humor and the intelligence to not rant on the obvious... The university is in Eugene, not Oregon. And since it was initially a harmless/humorous (albeit not to you) reply that you decided to rant on...Your bad... your bad only! What a fool... too bad, as one in every 10 posts are actually ok. PS- I hear Walmart has both tampons and a sense of humor bogo. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 9, 2019 17:32:18 GMT -8
We had a competitor. Our high jumper took 10th and was a second-team All-American. As far as firing the coach, that's stupidity. He took the cross country team to the NCAA finals for the first time in history in just his second year. Wow we had one athlete make nationals, finishing tenth and scoring zero points. I guess you gotta crawl before you can walk. Women's T&F/CC get 18.6 scholarships. We have elected to put our scholarship money into distance running, throws/jumps and heptathlon, over sprints/relays. It's a big reason the MeArpino twins transferred. They were getting too much money for no return and did not want to transition into events where they had a legit chance of scoring at Pac-12s/nationals. Our CC team took 6th in the Pac-12 and advanced to the NCAA finals last year for the first time in history. As a previous poster said, we had some athletes perform well at regionals, just not quite top-12 caliber. It's incredibly hard to advance to the NCAA championships. When we advance more women to the NCAA TRACK meet (and we will) it will be in distance events, throws and multi-events. We have advanced our cross country team to the NCAA finals, and will continue to do so. You have to look at CC/T&F as one entity. We are far beyond the crawling stage. Sorry you can't see that, but you do seem to generally dwell on the negative whenever possible. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 9, 2019 17:37:49 GMT -8
Wow we had one athlete make nationals, finishing tenth and scoring zero points. I guess you gotta crawl before you can walk. Women's T&F/CC get 18.6 scholarships. We have elected to put our scholarship money into distance running, throws/jumps and heptathlon, over sprints/relays. It's a big reason the MeArpino twins transferred. They were getting too much money for no return and did not want to transition into events where they had a legit chance of scoring at Pac-12s/nationals. Our CC team took 6th in the Pac-12 and advanced to the NCAA finals last year for the first time in history. As a previous poster said, we had some athletes perform well at regionals, just not quite top-12 caliber. It's incredibly hard to advance to the NCAA championships. When we advance more women to the NCAA TRACK meet (and we will) it will be in distance events, throws and multi-events. We have advanced our cross country team to the NCAA finals, and will continue to do so. You have to look at CC/T&F as one entity. We are far beyond the crawling stage. Sorry you can't see that, but you do seem to generally dwell on the negative whenever possible. "Crawl before walking" is the mantra of several posters here. If it wasn't for this forum they'd stay uninformed. Or... just crawl forever, as vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv |
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 9, 2019 18:38:27 GMT -8
Well, the fool...or in this case uck... must be you. Many of us Beavers on this board choose not to capitalize anything associated with our little sister school to the South. So things like ducks(or dropping the "d" like you seem to be aware of) uo, or oregon the school does not get a capitalization. Eugene the city, or Oregon (one of 50 in the United States) gets a capital letter. oregon, the school gets no capitalization...intentionally. Now explain to me how I need reading comprehension, or some other lame ass excuse you will use instead of not realizing you made a fool out of yourself while trying to be a smartass. Since you do not either have the intelligence or education(maybe both, not your fault) to comprehend what I wrote, let me try to help you--- "It will be hard to get any world class runners here with oregon(the school with the mascot known as the *uck) in Eugene(City in Oregon). Look at the sisters that came from the coast(North Bend I think...In Oregon) and then transferred to oregon(again, the school with the mascot known as the *uck). The reputation Dumble(Throws Coach at OSU) has should be a draw for throwers, and that could be our way to get some National athletes. Time will tell." Hope that helps. Instead of TRYING to be funny, pull your head out of your ass you are wearing for a hat to shade the sun in Summerlin(the city) and have another cocktail. Eugene the city and Oregon the state as written deserve caps. Idiots like you that are over the top anti/jealous and dwell on everything uck are quite the scene on here. So again... even after drinking, in any "Town" I still have a sense of humor and the intelligence to not rant on the obvious... The university is in Eugene, not Oregon. And since it was initially a harmless/humorous (albeit not to you) reply that you decided to rant on...Your bad... your bad only! What a fool... too bad, as one in every 10 posts are actually ok. PS- I hear Walmart has both tampons and a sense of humor bogo. LOL. At least we agree on “Eugene the city and Oregon the state as written deserve caps.” That’s real progress. If it is OK to drop the “d” in duck, is it OK to not capitalize uo or oregon the school? So am I an uck or over the top anti/jealous of them. 2 different statements in 2 different posts. (So many conflicting statements in your posts. Keep ‘em guessing I suppose) Really a simple admittance of being wrong, that you misread the post, would have cleared the whole thing up. I don’t have a problem letting my posts stand on their own merit. Yours stand on their own as well, and you have a well-earned reputation on the board. Since I don’t frequent Walmart, maybe find out if you can get diaper cream to go with your tampons instead of a sense of humor. Can help with your obvious butt-hurt condition. Cheers! |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Jun 9, 2019 19:19:52 GMT -8
Fascinating discussion on what words to capitalize.
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