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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 14, 2019 18:44:19 GMT -8
The season is over so... Actually maybe not "a while" there is much discussion going on about more than just on the court coaching... wins/losses. If another player leaves with similar grievances as a couple already gone, there are people not happy... and not boosters. And, my complaint about arrogant family members wasn't just a one game thing. The treatment of support staff, students is also not isolated incident. I can't take another season. I honestly quit posting and held my tongue. It's time for a change. They need to involve the heavy alumni this time around (if rumors are true they haven't previously w/ old Bobby DeCareless.) You obviously have no clue. They had several former players and alumni on the search committee when Tinkle was hired.
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Post by avidbeaver on Mar 14, 2019 18:57:37 GMT -8
Fire him. It really does not matter that his son is our best player. It would be a good thing for Tres, honestly. He could transfer somewhere for his last college season (if he decides to not declare) and actually win games. With the exception of Tres being dinged up, Wayne had a completely healthy team this year, with several 4-star recruits (TT, Thompson x2, Hollins, Washington, G). The conference was young, and HISTORICALLY AWFUL. We were one of the few teams with actual experience. The result? 18-13 and lost 5 of our last 7 games. G was not a 4 star recruit.....but rant on. Not sure Washington was either. Washington and Hollins were three star athletes. If one is to complain about the coach they should at least get their facts correct. I am not saying there isn't reasons to complain but at least get the facts correct.
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Post by pcm on Mar 14, 2019 19:08:28 GMT -8
G was not a 4 star recruit.....but rant on. Not sure Washington was either. Washington and Hollins were three star athletes. If one is to complain about the coach they should at least get their facts correct. I am not saying there isn't reasons to complain but at least get the facts correct. Sorry, Washington was a 3 star. Hollins was 4. www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/202770/alfred-hollins
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Post by avidbeaver on Mar 14, 2019 19:55:17 GMT -8
According to Beaverblitz, Hollins was a three star. I guess that there was a wide variety of thinking of Hollins' ability.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 14, 2019 20:01:30 GMT -8
According to Beaverblitz, Hollins was a three star. Who cares? We stunk it up.
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Post by avidbeaver on Mar 14, 2019 20:02:52 GMT -8
According to Beaverblitz, Hollins was a three star. Who cares? We stunk it up. So true, short and to the point.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 14, 2019 20:07:45 GMT -8
Sorry to have to admit, but Dana Altman is 50 times the coach. Much worse human being? Of course. Tinkle? Nice guy. We can do better.
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Post by OSUprof on Mar 14, 2019 20:17:51 GMT -8
While fans contemplate whether OSU has the right person leading the men's basketball program, they should also give thought to whether they have the right person to lead the search for a new coach.
If you've not already read the stories linked below you should.
Might need to have searches for two leaders.
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Post by beav74 on Mar 14, 2019 20:35:56 GMT -8
The thing that gets me is 5 assist on 18 FG! Calculates into 0 ball movement! Ralph Miller would never stand for that!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 6:30:09 GMT -8
What exactly do we criticize about Wayne's coaching?
First and foremost, i see a coaching staff that isn't good at game readiness. You can't tell me OS just doesnt have the players to beat a Colorado or the other teams that blew the beavers out. You can't put that all on the players. I know what it looks like when players are dogging it. The body language and the lack of hustle always tells. That is not the problem. This coaching staff seems to do a really bad job at scouting, game prep, having a strategy, and most of all, the in game strategy is just terrible. Good coaches do not let their team even get down by 5 in that game yesterday without using every tool at their disposal, timeouts, substitutions, defensive changes, full court presses, Hell, ask the official to give you a technical do whatever to wake your guys the hell up. Didn't happen yesterday and seems to not happen most of the time. This isnt the NBA, college coaches control the action at this level. Or they just let their "ok" players lose the game for them by not giving them any direction.
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Post by irimi on Mar 15, 2019 6:49:02 GMT -8
The thing that gets me is 5 assist on 18 FG! Calculates into 0 ball movement! Ralph Miller would never stand for that! Pretty sure Ralph Miller wouldn’t have given any special treatment to kids, his own or other coaches. Hell, look at Pat Casey and how he handled Joe. Just another player on the TEAM.
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Post by sagebrush on Mar 15, 2019 7:30:20 GMT -8
The thing that gets me is 5 assist on 18 FG! Calculates into 0 ball movement! Ralph Miller would never stand for that! Ralph Miller is gone and so is the game of basketball that existed when he was coaching. Seriously, when is the last time you have seen a weak side screen with a back door cut for a layup. It was a staple in every team's offense. Or, if you were a transition team, everybody bust your ass to get down the court and beat somebody for a pass for an open 15 foot jump shot that you were expected to actually make. Or, if they are playing zone, same thing. Push the ball and attack before they get it set up. Nah, let's walk it up and let our guy try to beat their guy one on one.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 15, 2019 8:20:32 GMT -8
While fans contemplate whether OSU has the right person leading the men's basketball program, they should also give thought to whether they have the right person to lead the search for a new coach.
If you've not already read the stories linked below you should.
Might need to have searches for two leaders.
Every single AD in the country has made a bad hire somewhere along the line. So far Barnes' hires at OSU (men's soccer, T&F, swimming) have all been excellent choices, and I am hearing great things about the new women's soccer coach.
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Post by blastingsand on Mar 15, 2019 8:26:52 GMT -8
People are calling for Tinkle to be out, but the AD is advertising this as the one of the greatest seasons in OSU basketball recent history.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 15, 2019 8:29:17 GMT -8
While fans contemplate whether OSU has the right person leading the men's basketball program, they should also give thought to whether they have the right person to lead the search for a new coach.
If you've not already read the stories linked below you should.
Might need to have searches for two leaders.
Every single AD in the country has made a bad hire somewhere along the line. So far Barnes' hires at OSU (men's soccer, T&F, swimming) have all been excellent choices, and I am hearing great things about the new women's soccer coach. Yeah, I was just reading about those on ESPN. Wait, no, no I wasn’t. Sorry.
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