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Post by rainmanrich on Feb 16, 2019 14:38:29 GMT -8
So far in two games (far from a representative sample for sure) the two hitters in front of Rutsch: AB: 15 Hits: 1 BB: 3
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Post by zeroposter on Feb 16, 2019 15:00:07 GMT -8
Zags in the top of the third Ground out to short, one away Fly out to center, two away Ground out to second
1-0 zags after 2.5
I’m not at game today , but I gotta know: was the Beau Philip play in the 3rd as super as radio call made it seem? Cadyn 2.0? It was a good play, but Cadyn 2.0 it wasnt. Beau has tools, speed, and his bunt was a thing of beauty, and his bat may be better but Cadyn would have made that play look ordinary. Then again, if we ever see Cadyn 2.0 I will be stunned.
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Post by abureid on Feb 16, 2019 15:11:49 GMT -8
I’m not at game today , but I gotta know: was the Beau Philip play in the 3rd as super as radio call made it seem? Cadyn 2.0? It was a good play, but Cadyn 2.0 it wasnt. Beau has tools, speed, and his bunt was a thing of beauty, and his bat may be better but Cadyn would have made that play look ordinary. Then again, if we ever see Cadyn 2.0 I will be stunned. I think we may have said that about Darwin.
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Post by ricke71 on Feb 16, 2019 15:34:35 GMT -8
I’m not at game today , but I gotta know: was the Beau Philip play in the 3rd as super as radio call made it seem? Cadyn 2.0? It was a good play, but Cadyn 2.0 it wasnt. Beau has tools, speed, and his bunt was a thing of beauty, and his bat may be better but Cadyn would have made that play look ordinary. Then again, if we ever see Cadyn 2.0 I will be stunned. thanks! I got to see game yesterday (and tomorrow)...but springtime hills called for me today. At any rate, it’s great that our new SS is so very capable. Loved his bunt hit...oh, and his Roundtripper.
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Post by beavermybiscuits on Feb 16, 2019 15:40:33 GMT -8
Just wait folks, I believe Beau Philip will be the best overall SS we’ve had yet.
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Post by ricke71 on Feb 16, 2019 16:10:55 GMT -8
Just wait folks, I believe Beau Philip will be the best overall SS we’ve had yet. could end up being a difficult comparison, because if he’s that good, he’ll likely be just a ONE season Beaver.
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Post by 56chevy on Feb 16, 2019 16:11:24 GMT -8
Just wait folks, I believe Beau Philip will be the best overall SS we’ve had yet. We are only 2 games into the season, but I just don't see it. For one thing, he likely will only be with us for one year. He is now playing at a different level, hard to see how he dominates in one year. Cadyn as we know him happened his second and third year at OSU.
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Post by beavermybiscuits on Feb 16, 2019 16:23:50 GMT -8
we shall see. You heard it here first
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Post by zeroposter on Feb 16, 2019 16:36:02 GMT -8
Just wait folks, I believe Beau Philip will be the best overall SS we’ve had yet. Let me see. Darwin was a MLB Gold Glove winner and tied the MLB consecutive game, error less streak for 2B. Cadyn was a first round pick largely because of his glove. If Beau can outdo those guys, I will really be impressed, and I already think he is pretty decent. The 900th post debating Darwin, Cadyn, and the future shortstops. Lol.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 16, 2019 17:31:03 GMT -8
It's tough to separate the college player from the pro player. What a guy does after OSU shouldn't factor into how good of a player he was at OSU.
No one would say Steve Lyons is one of OSU's all-time great players. He wasn't, not even close. He had a nice professional career, better than 99.9 percent of OSU lettermen, but that doesn't make him a better college player than Shea McFeeley or Ken Bowen. .
Matt Boyd was a good pitcher at OSU, and has had a nice pro career. But he wasn't anywhere near as good a college pitcher as Dallas Buck, who never pitched an inning above AA, I think.
Same with Ken Simonton and Teron Ward. No question who the better college player was, but Ward had the better pro career.
If Philip can become as good a college player as Darwin or Grenier, we're in good shape this season.
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Post by ag87 on Feb 16, 2019 17:53:47 GMT -8
If Buck's arm had stayed sound, he would have been very good in MLB.
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Post by abureid on Feb 16, 2019 18:05:52 GMT -8
Just wait folks, I believe Beau Philip will be the best overall SS we’ve had yet. Let me see. Darwin was a MLB Gold Glove winner and tied the MLB consecutive game, error less streak for 2B. Cadyn was a first round pick largely because of his glove. If Beau can outdo those guys, I will really be impressed, and I already think he is pretty decent. The 900th post debating Darwin, Cadyn, and the future shortstops. Lol. Just the fact that we can hold a debate with Beau in the mix makes me very happy. Army is a good 2B, so the middle looks to be solid defensively.
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 16, 2019 22:13:49 GMT -8
Also sounds like things are pretty solid in the Outfield too
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Post by Tigardbeav on Feb 16, 2019 23:20:58 GMT -8
It's tough to separate the college player from the pro player. What a guy does after OSU shouldn't factor into how good of a player he was at OSU. No one would say Steve Lyons is one of OSU's all-time great players. He wasn't, not even close. He had a nice professional career, better than 99.9 percent of OSU lettermen, but that doesn't make him a better college player than Shea McFeeley or Ken Bowen. . Ha! I was looking up something else after the game in the media guide. Ran across Ken Bowen record most errors in OS Baseball history I was looking for last Beaver that hit for the Cycle. A: Ryan Dunn 2011 vs UP
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 17, 2019 8:58:05 GMT -8
It's tough to separate the college player from the pro player. What a guy does after OSU shouldn't factor into how good of a player he was at OSU. No one would say Steve Lyons is one of OSU's all-time great players. He wasn't, not even close. He had a nice professional career, better than 99.9 percent of OSU lettermen, but that doesn't make him a better college player than Shea McFeeley or Ken Bowen. Matt Boyd was a good pitcher at OSU, and has had a nice pro career. But he wasn't anywhere near as good a college pitcher as Dallas Buck, who never pitched an inning above AA, I think. Same with Ken Simonton and Teron Ward. No question who the better college player was, but Ward had the better pro career. If Philip can become as good a college player as Darwin or Grenier, we're in good shape this season. Matt Boyd was a way better college pitcher than Dallas Buck, most noticeably far more strikeouts and far fewer walks. Boyd was the ace on a staff that included another major leaguer (Andrew Moore), Dylan Davis (who had a 3.08 ERA as a pitcher and was also an outfielder for Oregon State), and Ben Wetzler Holmes. In his junior season, in his starts, Boyd never pitched fewer than five innings and never gave up more than three earned runs. Contrariwise, in his junior season, in his starts, Buck pitched fewer than five innings twice (once against Texas-Pan American) and gave up more than three earned runs four times. In his first start at the College World Series in 2006, Buck gave up 7 earned runs to Miami in 5 innings in a 7 hits, 5 walks, and 2 strikeout performance. A sophomore Mike Stutes against that same Miami team held the Hurricanes to 1 earned run in 6 1/3 innings on 4 hits, 2 walks, and 3 strikeouts. In his first start at the College World Series in 2013, Boyd had a pitching performance for the ages, throwing a complete game, four hit shutout against Indiana that featured 11 strikeouts and 3 walks. Going back to the Super Regionals, Boyd gave up one earned run on five hits in a seven inning gem, only for Jace Fry to come on and give up three runs to lose the game. Boyd then came back on one day's rest to pitch the final 1 1/3 innings to pick up his lone save of the year in the tense 4-3 rubber match to punch Oregon State's ticket to Omaha.
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