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Post by mbabeav on Feb 4, 2019 17:19:29 GMT -8
Rams spent most of the game f'ing up - I kept telling my wife that they had to run at least 1-2 fly sweeps to Cooks to keep the defense honest - and throw to Cooks on a 10 yard crossing pattern out of the slot. Goff didn't have the time or the check down smarts under Patriot's pressure and coverage to throw the ball deep. And Cooks was mugged on the one pass over the middle but refs did not throw one PI on either team I think. Least penalized game I have seen in a while, cept for the motions, and the 18 men on defense penalty. Cooks did get one holding penalty called with the defender basically pulling off his jersey, but if you were a Patriot's d-back, it must of felt like the 1970's again. Rams, on the other hand, well #11 was invisible.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 4, 2019 18:24:55 GMT -8
You have to wonder why the Pats dumped Cooks. Seems he is exactly what Brady Needed. Size? Money. His rookie contract was done and they didn't want to pay him.
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Post by atownbeaver on Feb 4, 2019 18:54:48 GMT -8
You have to wonder why the Pats dumped Cooks. Seems he is exactly what Brady Needed. Size? Money. His rookie contract was done and they didn't want to pay him. From what I read, they were actually willing to pay him... Turns out the Patriots were inquiring with the Rams about dealing Gronk to them. One thing lead to another and Rams asked about Cooks. They decided he was worth another 1st round pick. It is a savvy move.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 4, 2019 22:30:47 GMT -8
Money. His rookie contract was done and they didn't want to pay him. From what I read, they were actually willing to pay him... Turns out the Patriots were inquiring with the Rams about dealing Gronk to them. One thing lead to another and Rams asked about Cooks. They decided he was worth another 1st round pick. It is a savvy move. Brady, like him or not, seems to do just fine with whoever is catching balls. Makes trades like that pretty easy.
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Post by bill82 on Feb 4, 2019 23:23:35 GMT -8
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 5, 2019 8:12:59 GMT -8
Yes, he felt he had to make the play. He stepped up and was accountable.
Doesn't mean he dropped it, or that there weren't extenuating circumstances, like his left arm being grabbed. On the other one you say he dropped, the ball was knocked out of his hands because Goff overthrew a lollipop, about five seconds to late. And he had no chance whatsoever on the well-underthrown ball that resulted in the interception, since his back was to the play because the ball should have been thrown about 10 yards further.
Some people constantly dwell on the negative. I'm not one of them.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 5, 2019 11:35:19 GMT -8
Yes, he felt he had to make the play. He stepped up and was accountable. Doesn't mean he dropped it, or that there weren't extenuating circumstances, like his left arm being grabbed. On the other one you say he dropped, the ball was knocked out of his hands because Goff overthrew a lollipop, about five seconds to late. And he had no chance whatsoever on the well-underthrown ball that resulted in the interception, since his back was to the play because the ball should have been thrown about 10 yards further. Some people constantly dwell on the negative. I'm not one of them. The guy is a stud... on the field and as a human. His efforts can never be doubted. And his words also show leadership and his intellect... deflect some predictable blame toward his young QB.
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Post by ee1990 on Feb 5, 2019 20:14:06 GMT -8
I thought the 2nd was for sure a drop "it hit him in both hands" but it was 100% PI.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 6, 2019 10:38:06 GMT -8
Rams spent most of the game f'ing up - I kept telling my wife that they had to run at least 1-2 fly sweeps to Cooks to keep the defense honest - and throw to Cooks on a 10 yard crossing pattern out of the slot. Goff didn't have the time or the check down smarts under Patriot's pressure and coverage to throw the ball deep. And Cooks was mugged on the one pass over the middle but refs did not throw one PI on either team I think. Least penalized game I have seen in a while, cept for the motions, and the 18 men on defense penalty. Cooks did get one holding penalty called with the defender basically pulling off his jersey, but if you were a Patriot's d-back, it must of felt like the 1970's again. Rams, on the other hand, well #11 was invisible. Yeah, I think that 2008 Mike Riley would have put up at least 17 on the Pats. It is easy to successfully play some really vanilla football, when the other team does not pressure you to score by scoring, though. I was very underwhelmed with Sean McVay. One of the plays that is forgotten (not by my but by others) is Johnny Hekker's 58 yard punt to pin the Patriots at their own two with 16 seconds left. Brady kneels for a loss of one. The Rams have two timeouts. The Rams held Ezekiel Elliott to 47 yards on 20 carries (2.3 ypc) and Dak Prescott to 3 yards on 2 carries (1.5 ypc). They also held the Saints to 48 yards rushing on 21 carries (2.3 ypc). And that was not, when they were backed up to their own one. Instead of trying to force the Patriots into making a mistake and taking some points and momentum into the locker room, McVay took his two timeouts into the locker room like a chump. No penalties? The Rams were penalized nine times for 65 yards. The Pats three times for 20 yards. The referees handed the game to the Pats on a platter. Among the penalties: The very dubious roughing call on Robey, which turned a 3rd-and-18 into a 1st-and-10. The Pats drove down to miss a field goal. The net result was that five minutes ticked off the clock and the Pats gained three yards. Barron was called for defensive holding on a five-yard pass play. What was a 3rd-and-4 was turned into a 1st down. Another two minutes came off the clock. I do not care if Barron held White or not, that should never have been called. There was no way that White was going to go for a first down. The coup de grâce was the phantom holding penalty on the Rams first drive of the fourth quarter. Even the announcers could not find the hold. The call turned a 1st and 10 for the Rams at the Pat 44 into 1st and 20 for the Rams at the Ram 33, what was effectively a 23-yard phantom penalty. Goff was sacked on 1st-and-20. The next pass fell incomplete. The Rams quizzically opted to run it on 3rd-and-22, which resulted in a loss. The Rams punted, and Brady found Gronk on two passes for 47 yards to set up Sony Michel's two-yard run for the win. Not that it matters, but the Rams were also called for illegal use of hands on the Pats' final field goal drive (a good call). The Rams were also called for holding on their final drive. (I did not see a hold, and, unless it was blatant, it was a bad call considering the situation.) That turned what should have been a 38-yard field goal by Zuerlein into a 48-yard field goal. (He still should have hit the 48-yard field goal, but there is next to zero chance he misses a 38-yard field goal.) The other penalties? The Rams were penalized five yards on 4th-and-3. It appeared that the Pats jumped, but the refs said that the clock expired first. The Rams were called for a false start on their own 11. C.J. Anderson got three yards back on a run but the third down pass was incomplete. Hekker punted for 54 yards. The Pats were called for holding on a punt, turning a 42 yard net punt into a 32 yard net punt. Goff got sacked for a loss of 14 yards on 3rd-and-2. The Pats got the ball back with even better field position. Goff audibled and forgot the snap count. He was called for a false start on 2nd-and-1. A good call. The Rams ended up converting a first down anyway two plays later on Cooks' 8-yard catch on third down. The drive was stymied on the phantom holding call after the Rams crossed midfield. Also, the Rams declined two penalties on the Pats on the Pats' final field goal drive to try and preserve time. Finally, the Rams' too many men in motion penalty that you mentioned was actually declined. Standard Belichick genius. The Rams were called for an illegal shift at their own two. Rather than make it 1st-and-11, Belichick declined the penalty to make it 2nd-and-8. The Rams got two yards on two plays and punted out from their own six. Unfortunately for Belichick, Hekker kicked a Super Bowl record 65-yard punt. The Pats went three-and-out, and Allen could only manage a 42-yard punt. The Rams drove 32 yards for the game-tying field goal. One interesting fact? Super Bowl record longest punts: 1. Johnny Hekker 65 yards 2. Ryan Allen 64 yards
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Feb 6, 2019 11:13:49 GMT -8
Surprise, surprise. A phantom call against a New England opponent wipes out a big play at a key juncture of a close game.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Feb 6, 2019 11:37:53 GMT -8
I was scratching my head on the end of half deal.I just figured that is the way the big boys play it. Why not make them punt from the endzone? Makes no sense
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Post by kersting13 on Feb 6, 2019 11:49:10 GMT -8
I was scratching my head on the end of half deal.I just figured that is the way the big boys play it. Why not make them punt from the endzone? Makes no sense They only had 2 TOs, so I don't think they could have forced a punt, but they could have forced 2 more snaps from inside the 2. The ONLY thing I think they might have been thinking was that the Pats had enough room to do the 2 more kneel-downs without bumping into the end zone, but it seemed close enough to me to force them to prove it.
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