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Post by beaverstever on Jan 28, 2019 9:13:23 GMT -8
The big surprise is that Okongwu, headed to USC, stayed four years at Chino Hills while playing for three different head coaches. It was a safe bet he’d leave. Why stay when the memories of his older brother’s death in 2014 from a skateboarding accident still lingered? Why stay after the circus created by LaVar Ball left the Huskies in turmoil? Why stay when he was starring for the Compton Magic in summer ball and had friends on other teams? Why stay when he already had his state championship ring and nothing left to prove? “I’m loyal to my school,” he said recently, “loyal to my city. I couldn’t leave.” There’s something unusual and inspiring about this basketball season. Okongwu is part of a collection of elite senior players who stayed all four years at a single high school. It’s very much against the trend of recent years. Last year’s McDonald’s All-American game rosters were filled with players who had attended multiple schools. The class of 2019 has held strong in the Southland, and the players and their parents deserve praise for loyalty. They include Isaiah Mobley (Temecula Rancho Christian, headed to USC); Jake Kyman (Santa Margarita, UCLA); Max Agbonkpolo (Santa Margarita, USC); Jarod Lucas (Hacienda Heights Los Altos, Oregon State); Gianni Hunt (Torrance Bishop Montgomery, Oregon State); Ethan Anderson (Fairfax, UNLV); Julian Rishwain (Sherman Oaks Notre Dame, Boston College); Jaime Jaquez (Camarillo, UCLA); James Keefe (Loyola, Stanford); Julien Franklin (Villa Park, Oregon State); Drake London (Moorpark, USC). All, like Okongwu, enrolled during their freshman year and stayed at their respective schools, through ups and downs, highs and lows, lobbying by friends, parents and club coaches. www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-high-schools-sondheimer-20181227-story.htmlNice character to have of these kids, for the whole conference (since most are going to the Pac-12) |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 28, 2019 10:27:43 GMT -8
For all the pissing and moaning a couple posters here do about Tinkle not being able to recruit anyone but blood relatives, of the 11 "stars" the author mentioned in the article, Tinkle landed 3 of them.
Maybe there's some hope left.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 28, 2019 11:19:33 GMT -8
For all the pissing and moaning a couple posters here do about Tinkle not being able to recruit anyone but blood relatives, of the 11 "stars" the author mentioned in the article, Tinkle landed 3 of them. Maybe there's some hope left. Umm those are "stars" among a subset of HS players who spent all four years at one high school. A semi-interesting fun fact, but hardly evidence of Tinkle's recruiting prowess. Not saying the kids are destined to be stars at the college level, yet they were mentioned in the same breath with kids signed by USC, UCLA, Stanford and Boston College. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 28, 2019 11:45:35 GMT -8
For all the pissing and moaning a couple posters here do about Tinkle not being able to recruit anyone but blood relatives, of the 11 "stars" the author mentioned in the article, Tinkle landed 3 of them. Maybe there's some hope left. This is an article on staying at a HS for 4 years despite turmoil and the trend of kids attending multiple schools. It's not a listing of the top recruits and where they are going. "Stars" ok, not begrudging the author or players talents, but these recruits fit almost the exact profile of the other recruiting classes that are not "my three sons". Also, since I'm not a huge fan of recruiting sites, in looking a couple and compiling info because many on here think they are meaningful: The California rankings of OSU's three... none are 4*... all are ranked somewhere #14-36 in Cali... #176, 228, 341 nationally. In Cali alone: SC... signed #1 and #2 players, both 5*... in on the #3 player also a 5*... signed the #5 player 4/5*... hard commit from #8 player UCLA... in on #3 player a 5*, signed #6 rated and a 4/5* Zona... signed #13 OSU... #14 (Offer Nevada, SC dropped theirs due to other signings), #20 (only significant offer- Nevada), #37 (best other offer New Mexico, Pepperdine) As of last week the national team rankings: (247... other vary a bit) Zona #1 SC #3 ucks #8 UW #18 Utes #30 ASU #40 Cal #46 UCLA #52 (UCLA #58 on one without potential signee) OSU #57 Furd #60 WSU #79 Buffs not listed with any signees So... depending on the site OSU is rated anywhere from 8th to 10th depending on if UCLA signs one key top 10 guy and if Stanford land two of it's 'wants' (prob IF the get into school???) I guess some will get excited because it is an "improvement" (??) over past Pac12/national standings: 2019 - 8th / national rank #57 and no 4* signed 2018 - 10th / national rank #85 (Kylor had no rating) with ZERO 4*... and 2 of the 4 no longer on the team 2017 - 9th / national #42 with one 4* the 3rd Son 2016 - 8th / national # 53 with one 4* and NONE of the three still on the team 2015 - 5th / national #21 "Year of the Two Sons" with three 4* / sons + Drew... 3 of the 6 no longer on the team Hmmm... so NO, ZIP, ZERO, NADA 4* signers except "My Three Sons" are on the team, one other left for NBA, another left the program. And, by my quick count we've KEPT only 9 of the last 16 recruits (counting Drew as staying) since the 2015 class and three are sons... or 6 of 13 without them. Again, it is just info. And, itr may be a trend in some ways, but I'm betting most lower tier schools who climb their way up aren't losing half their recruits, with the only 4* talent that they can sign being relatives. |
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 28, 2019 12:31:06 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 28, 2019 13:44:44 GMT -8
Of the top 40 players in California USC got 4, the Beavs got 3, UCLA landed 2 AZ and Stanford 1 each. Plenty of those kids in the top 40 ranked below or around our recruits went to power 5 schools.
We didn't land top 10 recruits, but they're not kids to turn their noses at. Hunt IS a 4 Star recruit on Scout and was offered by USC. The difference between a good 3 star and an average 4 star can be based more on who offered him than actual ability.
If we convert the Fresno State commit alluded to in a previous post we'd be getting a guy offered by both Kansas schools, ASU, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Louisville, DePaul and others. It'll be interesting to see what happens there, with Jack Wilson gone there's not a logjam at center staring at recruits anymore.
I quite frankly am shocked UCLA doesn't have a better ranked class, even with the firing. OSU has never had a very highly ranked recruiting class that I can recall, even in the good 'ol days.
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Post by ag87 on Jan 28, 2019 14:53:09 GMT -8
Of the top 40 players in California USC got 4, the Beavs got 3, UCLA landed 2 AZ and Stanford 1 each. Plenty of those kids in the top 40 ranked below or around our recruits went to power 5 schools. We didn't land top 10 recruits, but they're not kids to turn their noses at. Hunt IS a 4 Star recruit on Scout and was offered by USC. The difference between a good 3 star and an average 4 star can be based more on who offered him than actual ability. If we convert the Fresno State commit alluded to in a previous post we'd be getting a guy offered by both Kansas schools, ASU, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Louisville, DePaul and others. It'll be interesting to see what happens there, with Jack Wilson gone there's not a logjam at center staring at recruits anymore. I quite frankly am shocked UCLA doesn't have a better ranked class, even with the firing. OSU has never had a very highly ranked recruiting class that I can recall, even in the good 'ol days. they probably did not have recruiting rankings 40 years ago, but Charlie Sitton was national player of the year at Mac. The next year's winner was Patrick Ewing. They met in the previously mentioned elite 8 game in 1982. |
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Post by vhalum92 on Jan 28, 2019 17:46:13 GMT -8
I'm curious... how many players are awarded the 5* rating on average each year?
I get it that we maybe getting the best of the left overs.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 28, 2019 17:54:39 GMT -8
I'm curious... how many players are awarded the 5* rating on average each year? I get it that we maybe getting the best of the left overs. This year Rivals lists 31 5 star basketball recruits, 247 sports lists 28. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 28, 2019 19:50:37 GMT -8
I'm curious... how many players are awarded the 5* rating on average each year? I get it that we maybe getting the best of the left overs. This year Rivals lists 31 5 star basketball recruits, 247 sports lists 28. Rivals... lists 99 of the 4* variety 247... lists 98 of the 4* Oregon State none of those "best of the rest" Rivals... only saw a Top 150 without joining unsure on how many they rank as 3*... has OSU 10th in Pac12 247... 308 rated as 3*... Hunt rated the 49th "best" 3*... Lucas the 101st "best" 3*... Franklin the 214th "best" 3 * Zona (#1), SC (#2 or #3), ucks (#8) are all top 10 in the country... UW listed as #17 by some but are in on the #5 kid overall, verbal from #6. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 28, 2019 20:15:05 GMT -8
Arizona, USC and the ducks have all been accused of paying players or thier families or to have coaches that have taken bribes in the last year... so in a way, one has to wonder.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 28, 2019 20:38:32 GMT -8
40% of Division I signees transfer before their junior year. Seven leaving of 16 (43%) puts us marginally above the national average.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 28, 2019 21:39:35 GMT -8
40% of Division I signees transfer before their junior year. Seven leaving of 16 (43%) puts us marginally above the national average. You need to learn some statistical validity... an overall % "national average" (?) isn't the % of each of the 347 D1 schools taken individually. |
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Post by blackbug on Jan 28, 2019 22:04:14 GMT -8
40% of Division I signees transfer before their junior year. Seven leaving of 16 (43%) puts us marginally above the national average. You need to learn some statistical validity... an overall % "national average" (?) isn't the % of each of the 347 D1 schools taken individually. Statistical validity has nothing to do with what you said. The "statistical law" was that 40% of D1 basketball signees currently transfer at least once. Now we "performed" a smaller study at Oregon State. Did it confirm the statistical law of 40% transfer. The answer would be roughly yes. This is an example of statistical validity. Once again you are wrong, but who can keep track of all the times. Fire away with insults or whatever you call them, I know you cannot resist. |
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Post by babeav on Jan 28, 2019 22:30:57 GMT -8
I'll take a couple of guys recruited by UNR, don't trust Tinkle? Eric Musselman has an eye for talent.
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