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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 11, 2019 12:51:50 GMT -8
Curious as to board members' thoughts on Tate. I remember seeing him last year run wild on the Beavs as well as in another game or two, but didn't see him play this year. I've read that Sumlin tried to make him more of a passer and the stats seem to bear that out. The reason I'm curious about him is there has been speculation by Illinois fans (the other team I follow) that he is a strong candidate to be a grad transfer and end up with the Illini since Arizona's co-offensive coordinator from last year just completed his first at U of I. Originally it didn't look like he'd graduate in time to leave, but he posted on social media that he would graduate this summer, so it isn't outside the realm of possibility. Obviously not having a full summer of work at U of I would hamper his adjustment, but he certainly knows the offense.
Anyone have thoughts on his strengths, weaknesses, overall play?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 15:57:03 GMT -8
Curious as to board members' thoughts on Tate. I remember seeing him last year run wild on the Beavs as well as in another game or two, but didn't see him play this year. I've read that Sumlin tried to make him more of a passer and the stats seem to bear that out. The reason I'm curious about him is there has been speculation by Illinois fans (the other team I follow) that he is a strong candidate to be a grad transfer and end up with the Illini since Arizona's co-offensive coordinator from last year just completed his first at U of I. Originally it didn't look like he'd graduate in time to leave, but he posted on social media that he would graduate this summer, so it isn't outside the realm of possibility. Obviously not having a full summer of work at U of I would hamper his adjustment, but he certainly knows the offense. Anyone have thoughts on his strengths, weaknesses, overall play? my very off the cuff opinion based on watching him play in two or three games- he didn't look like much of a passing threat. Just another running qb with good wheels who is trying to learning to be a pocket quarterback. Not sure he has the skill set for that. He had that huge freshman year as a running qb, then he had some injuries and last year he looked pedestrian. |
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 11, 2019 22:45:13 GMT -8
Curious as to board members' thoughts on Tate. I remember seeing him last year run wild on the Beavs as well as in another game or two, but didn't see him play this year. I've read that Sumlin tried to make him more of a passer and the stats seem to bear that out. The reason I'm curious about him is there has been speculation by Illinois fans (the other team I follow) that he is a strong candidate to be a grad transfer and end up with the Illini since Arizona's co-offensive coordinator from last year just completed his first at U of I. Originally it didn't look like he'd graduate in time to leave, but he posted on social media that he would graduate this summer, so it isn't outside the realm of possibility. Obviously not having a full summer of work at U of I would hamper his adjustment, but he certainly knows the offense. Anyone have thoughts on his strengths, weaknesses, overall play? He was obviously a HUGE running threat in 2017 with over 1400 yards rushing, I thought it was ankle injuries in 2018 that limited his run game last season more than it was intentionally reeling him in. He seems to have a good arm and I've seen him throw some pretty decent downfield passes. He did finish as the #23 rated passer in NCAA this year, so he's no Seth Collins. I can't vouch for his NFL projection, but he's undoubtedly a good college QB. |
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Post by beavaristotle on Jan 14, 2019 14:54:03 GMT -8
here is an NFL breakdown. I like him as a college QB, but don't see him at the next level.
PROS: Highly mobile quarterback who can make a range of impressive improv plays. Poised in the face of pressure–will deliver as pressure arrives or sidestep it with great frequency. Very difficult to sack if you’re the first man there. Can make some high velocity throws on the move, but velocity is more impressive from loaded base. Keeps lower half very active in throwing motion to recruit added power.
Struggles with accuracy generally, but throws some very well placed balls on the move, including touch throws that impress. Has a very quick release that he can activate on the hoof, which allows him to attack narrower windows because he isn’t telegraphing his target and throwing motion. Has a clean over-the-top motion with no hitches that, when normalized with weight distribution in lower half, delivers a very consistent ball. Velocity and quick release, along with good sense of confidence, help him attack tight windows down the field. Same phenomenon appears when attempting bucket throws against leveraged defenders, with a mixed bag of success.
CONS: Generally struggles with accuracy–needs a more normalized mechanical process. Will distribute weight haphazardly on either foot on various deep ball/touch throw attempts, and thereby ball location is a little unpredictable. Tends to take too wide of a base when throwing deep and recruiting upper body bend in an effort to generate velocity. Lack of stepping through forces hips to pike and upper half to tilt and slash, which will cause long-term issues. Touch throws, under which he’s attempting to put air, undergo a similar phenomena of upper body bend and restricted motion in the hips.
Not comfortable in the pocket and looks to escape instead of adjust as the pocket dynamic shifts. Not a processor of the full field–partially by offensive design–and would prefer to break pocket and improvise than remain and work whatever route concepts exist. Again, offensive structure contributes to this limitation. Despite excellent mobility, does not yet have good vision/discernment as a runner and will cap his own ability to pick up yardage on the ground. Entire pro projection hinges on throwing motion/accuracy.
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Post by beaverinohio on Jan 15, 2019 14:47:28 GMT -8
Thanks for the great feedback everyone. You've confirmed what I thought -- not perfect by any stretch but will likely be better than what Illinois has if he does indeed grad transfer there. They're finally starting to get some quality on their roster (going through rebuild like Beavs), and having a good QB who knows Rod Smith's system could help them turn the corner on the rebuild while their young QBs develop.
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